chanukya
05-23 07:35 AM
As many of you have been following, there are some provisions that benefit folks with advanced degree in STEM from US universities by exempting them from the Visa quota. I think CIR in its current form has a provision and the Cornyn (4005) and the Brownback (4058) ammendments that are yet to be introduced also have some such provisions.
My question is, will people who qualify under this category still have to clear labor? If so, then those of us who are stuck in BEC can only wait and watch while those who have cleared using PERM will go ahead. We could transfer from BEC to PERM but this is not as easy as it sounds. We could also apply fresh in PERM (as retrogression will not apply, hence PD will not matter) but this is also not as easy as it sounds for folks who are in 7th year or greater in H1B.
Any thoughts or comments?
CORNYN amendment�Very cleverly worded..Regarding US Masters and above...
On Careful reading of SA4005...
On one hand exempts US any Masters from Quota but does not exempt from LC any US Masters unless such US Masters and above are "Member of Professions" ???? with advanced degrees.
So, US Masters(STEM or no STEM) and above still have to go thru LC Process....unless they are "Member of Professions", who will be handled as a special case.
Above "Memebr of Professions" open to many legal interpretations and INS dictionary may say something like it means only Doctors/Lawyers....?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/at...6&d=1147880856
Bottom Line, US Masters thru any bill or its amendments cannot avoid LC process.
Only difference is in CORNYN amendment any US Masters (not necessarily STEM US Masters) are exempt from quota.
And your assessment is correct, PERM ..US Masters stand to benefit immedeatly.
My question is, will people who qualify under this category still have to clear labor? If so, then those of us who are stuck in BEC can only wait and watch while those who have cleared using PERM will go ahead. We could transfer from BEC to PERM but this is not as easy as it sounds. We could also apply fresh in PERM (as retrogression will not apply, hence PD will not matter) but this is also not as easy as it sounds for folks who are in 7th year or greater in H1B.
Any thoughts or comments?
CORNYN amendment�Very cleverly worded..Regarding US Masters and above...
On Careful reading of SA4005...
On one hand exempts US any Masters from Quota but does not exempt from LC any US Masters unless such US Masters and above are "Member of Professions" ???? with advanced degrees.
So, US Masters(STEM or no STEM) and above still have to go thru LC Process....unless they are "Member of Professions", who will be handled as a special case.
Above "Memebr of Professions" open to many legal interpretations and INS dictionary may say something like it means only Doctors/Lawyers....?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/at...6&d=1147880856
Bottom Line, US Masters thru any bill or its amendments cannot avoid LC process.
Only difference is in CORNYN amendment any US Masters (not necessarily STEM US Masters) are exempt from quota.
And your assessment is correct, PERM ..US Masters stand to benefit immedeatly.
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hopefulgc
08-21 11:26 AM
Man, I lost my patience with them long back.
My case is NSC-EAC-NSC
I keep a log of anything "useful" I am told every time I speak to them. And usually, the first few mins are wasted in them giving me wrong info, me telling them what they told me last time and them finally agreeing with it after re-checking their screens.
btw .. it is indeed super-frustrating and unacceptable they way they are bouncing your case around.
Why is USCIS forgetting that we are paying for their third grade services?
I broke my politeness today.USCIS inconsistency broke the limits for me.
My case was filed in Nebarska then tranferred to Texas then as soon as the priority date became current, last month, it was transferred to California.
I talked yesterday to customer service and it by chance got transferred to California Service Center where the officer told me that my case was transferred back to Texas Service Center on August 14, 2008. She also told me to call TSC to confirm it.
I called today the National Customer Service Center (NCSC) to confirm it and the lady tells me that the case is still in California and she has no more infomation about it. I told her about my call yesterday.
Lady: How could you have ever called CSC because their phone numbers are not public
Me: I called the same number and for some reason it got transferred to CSC.
Lady: Then you have already been told that your case has been transferred back on Aug 14, what do you need now ?
Me: The website does not show that. Plus the officer yesterday asked me to confirm it which you are not doing, you are just repeating my words about my conversation. There are so many inconsitencies . You told me just now that my case is still in California.
Lady: Can you please hold for a moment.
After hold:
Lady: I just talked to my supervisor, if the website says it is in California then it is California. Is there anything else I can help you with ?
Me: I do not understand "To speed up processing " clause in the reason to transfer it to california. It has been transferred from the center which is processing 485 applications to the center which is not processing applications. So the clause "To speed up processing" is so inconsistent.
Lady: Sir, we cannot tell you the reason why do we transfers
Me: But you have already told me the reason in the written notice as "To speed up processing"
Lady: It is not "To speed up processing " it is "for processing". Is there anything else that I can help you with ?
Me: I hang up the phone.
My case is NSC-EAC-NSC
I keep a log of anything "useful" I am told every time I speak to them. And usually, the first few mins are wasted in them giving me wrong info, me telling them what they told me last time and them finally agreeing with it after re-checking their screens.
btw .. it is indeed super-frustrating and unacceptable they way they are bouncing your case around.
Why is USCIS forgetting that we are paying for their third grade services?
I broke my politeness today.USCIS inconsistency broke the limits for me.
My case was filed in Nebarska then tranferred to Texas then as soon as the priority date became current, last month, it was transferred to California.
I talked yesterday to customer service and it by chance got transferred to California Service Center where the officer told me that my case was transferred back to Texas Service Center on August 14, 2008. She also told me to call TSC to confirm it.
I called today the National Customer Service Center (NCSC) to confirm it and the lady tells me that the case is still in California and she has no more infomation about it. I told her about my call yesterday.
Lady: How could you have ever called CSC because their phone numbers are not public
Me: I called the same number and for some reason it got transferred to CSC.
Lady: Then you have already been told that your case has been transferred back on Aug 14, what do you need now ?
Me: The website does not show that. Plus the officer yesterday asked me to confirm it which you are not doing, you are just repeating my words about my conversation. There are so many inconsitencies . You told me just now that my case is still in California.
Lady: Can you please hold for a moment.
After hold:
Lady: I just talked to my supervisor, if the website says it is in California then it is California. Is there anything else I can help you with ?
Me: I do not understand "To speed up processing " clause in the reason to transfer it to california. It has been transferred from the center which is processing 485 applications to the center which is not processing applications. So the clause "To speed up processing" is so inconsistent.
Lady: Sir, we cannot tell you the reason why do we transfers
Me: But you have already told me the reason in the written notice as "To speed up processing"
Lady: It is not "To speed up processing " it is "for processing". Is there anything else that I can help you with ?
Me: I hang up the phone.
indyanguy
03-18 07:37 PM
What is the reasonable time to wait for the approval of I-140 (EB3, NSC) before contacting the senator's office?
Mine has been pending for 8 months now.
Mine has been pending for 8 months now.
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chris
02-12 02:51 AM
Yes.. I did contacted to congresman office.
His office informed me that our cases are assigned to adjudicating officer.
damn! sorry to hear that Chris, did you contact any congressmen? as for me, I need to take some vacation, this gc bug has bitten me and its hurting now.:)
His office informed me that our cases are assigned to adjudicating officer.
damn! sorry to hear that Chris, did you contact any congressmen? as for me, I need to take some vacation, this gc bug has bitten me and its hurting now.:)
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07-16 11:40 PM
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ryan
01-26 03:35 PM
Seriously, who cares that Andhra bagged 7 ranks. How on earth is it relevant to the discussion going on here? Plus this isn't a forum for Indians only(and I'm Indian).
Stop posting these nonsense, amateur messages.
LOL! Nicely said. Some of the "talent & skill" that move here, is just most unfortunate.
Stop posting these nonsense, amateur messages.
LOL! Nicely said. Some of the "talent & skill" that move here, is just most unfortunate.
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waiting4gc
07-17 06:48 PM
In fact your latest I94 number is needed on ALL your forms. So you will not be able to even complete the forms till you get back. So either
1) Cut your trip short and return
OR
2) Continue your vacation and fill up all the forms electronically and get it verified by your lawyers if they agree to do so and then update it with the latest I94 after getting back
So do I actually have to be in the US to mail in the AOS forms (I-485s)? I've been a legal US resident for years on an H1-B, and have been fortunate to have never had out-of-status issues or anything like that. BUT, as it happens, I'm up in Canada on vacation at the moment, planning to return next week. I've never had to get a visa stamp or surrender I-94 or any of that stuf.
Do I need to actually be back in the US before lawyer sends in AOS forms ? Or is it sufficient that I'm a resident and will be back in the US once the AOS is processed.
- GS
1) Cut your trip short and return
OR
2) Continue your vacation and fill up all the forms electronically and get it verified by your lawyers if they agree to do so and then update it with the latest I94 after getting back
So do I actually have to be in the US to mail in the AOS forms (I-485s)? I've been a legal US resident for years on an H1-B, and have been fortunate to have never had out-of-status issues or anything like that. BUT, as it happens, I'm up in Canada on vacation at the moment, planning to return next week. I've never had to get a visa stamp or surrender I-94 or any of that stuf.
Do I need to actually be back in the US before lawyer sends in AOS forms ? Or is it sufficient that I'm a resident and will be back in the US once the AOS is processed.
- GS
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gc_on_demand
06-16 09:33 AM
Please call lawmakers. We have full commitee hearing on 23rd and then soon we will on floor for voting. If we wont call then it may not make it to floor. For details go to home page.
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eb3_nepa
10-13 03:18 PM
Just Kidding - as long as you are wearing decent clothes no one should reject your visa (which otherwise should have been approved) for wearing a jeans or for not wearing formal dress.
But when someone created a thread for this - let me share "one dress" people shouldn't wear.- this is something you would want to avoid, this was told to me 9yrs back when i first came to this country and appeared for Interview first time.
That dress is - "Red Shirt"
Hope this helps !
Are you serious or kidding?
But when someone created a thread for this - let me share "one dress" people shouldn't wear.- this is something you would want to avoid, this was told to me 9yrs back when i first came to this country and appeared for Interview first time.
That dress is - "Red Shirt"
Hope this helps !
Are you serious or kidding?
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indyanguy
10-19 07:52 PM
Actually, IMO, stocks is a loosers game. Many have tried it and have lost a "lot" of money(including myself). If you would like to make money through investments(i didn't say *stocks*), you should go with something like mutual funds and have a well diversified portfolio across different asset classes.
If you really want to get yourself into stock market investing, the best book(Holy Grail for people like Warren Buffet and many other Mutual Fund managers) to get started on is is The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham. There are tons of discussion forums like morningstar.com that has discussions about finance related topics. You could also get started with Mutual Funds for Dummies, Common Sense book on Investing by John Bogle, The Intelligent Asset Allocator by Bill Bernstein etc., There are tons of other ones, but this would get you started.
But, my 2 cents, have a long term goal, educate yourself on what investing(again, I didn't say stocks) is and get started. Investing is a marathon not a sprint.
Hope this helps.
Sanjay.
Thanks for the info. This is helpful. I see what you are saying. However, don't you think that considering there are a lot of stocks that are at bargain prices (due to the downturn in the economy and not necessarily due to the company's performance), this would be the right time to buy and hold and build up the portfolio. As Buffet himself said "Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful."
I strongly feel investing in well known companies' stocks which are battered temporarily is a nice way of expecting better returns when the stock market revives.
If you really want to get yourself into stock market investing, the best book(Holy Grail for people like Warren Buffet and many other Mutual Fund managers) to get started on is is The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham. There are tons of discussion forums like morningstar.com that has discussions about finance related topics. You could also get started with Mutual Funds for Dummies, Common Sense book on Investing by John Bogle, The Intelligent Asset Allocator by Bill Bernstein etc., There are tons of other ones, but this would get you started.
But, my 2 cents, have a long term goal, educate yourself on what investing(again, I didn't say stocks) is and get started. Investing is a marathon not a sprint.
Hope this helps.
Sanjay.
Thanks for the info. This is helpful. I see what you are saying. However, don't you think that considering there are a lot of stocks that are at bargain prices (due to the downturn in the economy and not necessarily due to the company's performance), this would be the right time to buy and hold and build up the portfolio. As Buffet himself said "Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful."
I strongly feel investing in well known companies' stocks which are battered temporarily is a nice way of expecting better returns when the stock market revives.
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manderson
07-17 02:49 PM
we really have to be morons to take anynonymous comments at face-value.
or did you post the comments yourself and like the attention?
or did you post the comments yourself and like the attention?
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vagish
04-18 11:13 PM
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Patience my lovelies. This may be the calm before the storm, who knows.
Per some news report, a debate has been scheduled on Senate floor to debate a comprehensive immigration reform bill during last two weeks of May'07
the other immigration bills are introduced by republicans, not with democratic support, so those bills are going no where. Only hope is STRIVE!!
thanks
Patience my lovelies. This may be the calm before the storm, who knows.
Per some news report, a debate has been scheduled on Senate floor to debate a comprehensive immigration reform bill during last two weeks of May'07
the other immigration bills are introduced by republicans, not with democratic support, so those bills are going no where. Only hope is STRIVE!!
thanks
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johnamit
07-17 02:55 PM
opening new threads like this is annoying, I see lots of useless thread around here which discourages me to come to IV that often. He is asking update from CORE like they owe him, he must have paid his attorney and should attorney in such way not here. Whenever core has something to share they do share, no doubts.
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johnamit
07-17 02:55 PM
opening new threads like this is annoying, I see lots of useless thread around here which discourages me to come to IV that often. He is asking update from CORE like they owe him, he must have paid his attorney and should attorney in such way not here. Whenever core has something to share they do share, no doubts.
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NKR
09-22 10:34 AM
Thanks NolaIndian. Looking at your profile I think I am being impatient. You deserve your GC before me, but I hope I get mine the very next day you get yours :). I am not far behind.
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abhisam
01-08 02:01 PM
I also had submitted with my I-94 attached. I forgot to remove it. It was stapled and I got it back with my old passport. So dont worry.
Thank you for your reply!
Thank you for your reply!
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nixstor
08-24 04:14 PM
Did you consider the 20k cap for Masters students? If they can plan to graduate in summer instead of spring they can safely use all OPT and get H1B with out pain. I know many guys who didnt use all of OPT (used half of it) and landed on H1B to be in status. I agree with the loan situation you mentioned though.
I think thats what SKIL is trying to do by making OPT 2 yrs. It gives the much needed leeway for students to move from F1 to H1 and finding a better employer instead of running to consultants for H1B.
B T W Are you the same guy who was looking for Pre approved labor on the other site.
I think thats what SKIL is trying to do by making OPT 2 yrs. It gives the much needed leeway for students to move from F1 to H1 and finding a better employer instead of running to consultants for H1B.
B T W Are you the same guy who was looking for Pre approved labor on the other site.
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bluez25
07-16 01:58 AM
i guess I am going to be in trouble in case I have to get a new PCC. I will try and get a new one when I reach India. Also update to my status is that chennai consulate has sent a letter to my local address in India about the interview appointment date.
tabletpc
11-30 12:37 PM
MUGWUMP,
Thanks for sharing you are expereince.
I just sent my application. I also claimed for 16 points. I have indian BS degree and US MS degree both in CS. Can i anticipate any request for more information from consulate..???
I felt kind of ashmed today after mailing the application. it took me not more than 30 mins in total to finish the application and i was dragging this from almsot 1+ years.
Most of the time things are not as difficult/time consuming as we assume it to be. Lesson learnt...!!!
Thanks for sharing you are expereince.
I just sent my application. I also claimed for 16 points. I have indian BS degree and US MS degree both in CS. Can i anticipate any request for more information from consulate..???
I felt kind of ashmed today after mailing the application. it took me not more than 30 mins in total to finish the application and i was dragging this from almsot 1+ years.
Most of the time things are not as difficult/time consuming as we assume it to be. Lesson learnt...!!!
ItIsNotFunny
12-03 05:40 PM
Bump ^^^^
Keep pledging. We need to make this happen.
Keep pledging. We need to make this happen.
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